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Rachel Dennison's avatar

I actually looked at most of the comments for your Hemingway video (before you wrote this). I don’t usually do this, but I did this time. As you said, lots of positive comments. But the negative ones pissed *me* off, and I’m just another random person. There are just so many assumptions, needless attacks. It drives me crazy knowing people are like that, even if it isn’t directed at me. Gotta work on that zen!

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Ryan Hecker's avatar

I love your work, AND there are things you say (in the most recent U.S. vs Europe video, for example) that I don't agree with. It would be a damn shame for me to have the latter interfere with the former. A quote I'm always reminded of on this topic:

“It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.”

—Theodore Roosevelt

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Tom Chain's avatar

Thanks for the quote 😊

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Corrine's avatar

Negative comments. A topic all by itself. We all have them floating around in our heads at some point. What we do with them AND the weight of them is a work in itself. I'd take a guess Nathaniel that your work has led to far more people feeling motivated, inspired, listened to and I could go on, than these few comments. Yes the internet has changed how we interact and it's important to acknowledge that.

Your own engagement with "us" is also noted and appreciated. I answered one of your newsletters briefly asking you to hug a tree in Paris because I both loved what you were doing there and I love Paris. The quick "Will do!" answer meant that for however briefly we two humans had a gentle spark of shared positive experience. (I hope bots don't answer your emails...) it's the same thing when you smile at the cashier or your neighbour, etc.

You do you, Nathaniel! Go to town!

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🧡Poli🧡's avatar

another perspective on this topic is that when you get so many different opinions and so many different eyes on you, it means you’re quite well established in the industry and people know about you. which, you’re obviously aware of that, since it’s your job and all, but i’m sharing it nonetheless haha.

and again proving your point, my take on this post talks more about me than you. i’m the one who’d like to be visible like you one day, so that’s what i’m noticing, haha 😆

love your work man, as always <3

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Marita Espada's avatar

Everyone feels entitled to judge art, instead of realizing that what someone made might not be for them, respect it and move on.

Others just enjoy being passive aggressive bullies online, because they are hurting and they want others to hurt with them.

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Alegria's avatar

The trolls will always troll, I adore you and admire your content. Keep doing what you are doing, and don’t take any of the negativity seriously. There’s a bubble of positive energy surrounding you from viewers who actually care

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Nathaniel Drew's avatar

Thank you Alegria!!

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Batsheva Dueck's avatar

I think we've told ourselves that this amount of negativity is normal on the internet, but I don't think it is. I think it reveals a societal problem -- and often a global one (which to me is frightening) -- that so many of us are hurting so much inside, that we feel the need to hurt others. That so many parents and teachers and societies as a whole have failed to teach children, who then grow into adults, how to manage those feelings of pain.

I think we as a society can do better than this, if we focused more on the importance of care, compassion, and empathy-- both for yourself and for other people. Of course, we can't change the whole world, but we can change ourselves. and if these are values that are important to me, I can hopefully instill them into my future children, who can instill them into theirs, and hopefully, we can start making a change.

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Nathaniel Drew's avatar

I do agree that the internet is putting up a giant mirror for all of us...

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Hanna Doniger's avatar

As I've said before, you warm the cockles of my heart...

My favorite Papa quote:

" If people bring so much courage to this world the world has to kill them to break them, so of course it kills them. The world breaks every one and afterward many are strong at the broken places. But those that will not break it kills. It kills the very good and the very gentle and the very brave impartially. If you are none of these you can be sure it will kill you too but there will be no special hurry."

Ernest Hemingway,

A Farewell to Arms

Becuz you are so observant - willfully, heretically, authentically & insightfully, you naturally feel everything deeply. Choose wisely & courageously & leave the trolls to their own pathetic lives.

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Cristina's avatar

Please continue to anchor ⚓️ yourself from your life's vision and mission. The internet is full of so much dread, negativity and rage baits.

I made a list of content creators that inspire me and lift my mood, and you are in it... ✨️

I cannot rely on the algorithm because it's all garbage, so I go back to that list to curate what I want to put my energy and focus.

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Dan Yearick's avatar

You know this already: Haters are going to hate. If for no other reason than because they’re miserable, small people. Keep doing what you’re doing.

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victoria siart's avatar

I always wondered what drives some people to write comments like this. I feel like it's part of human nature to be poisonous.People always talked behind each other back,people constantly talked behind Hemingway's back, I think even his "friends" did.

It's funny how much progress humankind made, some thing stays unchangeable, but I don't think that people would consider the fact that stop being toxic to each other is something that should be implemented to everyones daily life. Unfortunately, creators,who actually inspire us the most, also have to face this problem of human being the most.

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Drew's avatar

I bet on the presumption that anyone who seeks argument online has worse social skills or awareness than me or most people who live most of their life offline

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Art Go Show's avatar

Definitely! Pretension is fascinating… in the sense that it’s like projected preconception with a dose of extra tension, or processing our condition of being a unique part of an adverse whole… Otherwise, life is too precious to dwell on it! Thanks for being your own legend! You actually resonate with many of us and l trust that’s what defies matter. Not to sound too pretentious🤣❤️😁

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Em's avatar

These type of podcast/part journal entry is wonderful!

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Smilin'Genius's avatar

Well...I must say that "trying to be someone else" sometimes is a good idea 😁

Anyway Martijn Doolaard, for example, that you met in Italy, doesn't use to reply to the comment section of his YouTube channel; just Q&A in some videos.

I think he's a wise man.

Buona fortuna per i tuoi prossimi articoli...e commenti! 😅

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Mark Saleski's avatar

Martijn also gets SO many comments so he really can't be blamed. Boy, do I love his work. Some of the best video editing on YouTube.

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Smilin'Genius's avatar

I do love Martijn's videos too. It was not my intention to blame him but only to point out a possible option to manage followers. Not always, but often, those who comment on a post or video try to get attention and that's challenging to the creators.

Certainly, arrogance is one of the evils of the world.

(Hope to write it well, I'm not English mother tongue sorry)

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Mark Saleski's avatar

Oh, I didn't think you intended to blame Martijn. And your English is fine.

Arrogance is one of the evils of the world? Yes, indeed. Especially here in the states.

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Hannah Larson's avatar

I really really appreciate that you wrote about this!!! I love how honest you are here, it means a lot. Thanks for the note of encouragement at the end to not shrink ourselves, I needed to hear that!!!!! Creating on the internet is such a funny thing - it’s so interesting how much weight I can put on comments or likes - or when I don’t get any engagement at all - which just happened with my most recent piece! So today I’ve been reflecting on what that means to me and why it hurts and - does it matter if people don’t like it if I like it? Or is it bad? Or what does it mean to be a good writer? It’s so fascinating to reflect on our relationship with what we create and how it’s received on the internet and what we deduce it to mean. But I love how you said words and opinions of others only have as much weight as we give them. So much to think about and I appreciate you musing over this with me/all of us. Thank you!

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Nathaniel Drew's avatar

I'm so glad this clicked for you Hannah, thanks for reading!!

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Hannah Larson's avatar

💖💖💖

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